tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post4465818498355842572..comments2024-03-28T20:53:14.895+08:00Comments on CarGuide.PH | Philippine Car News, Car Reviews, Car Prices: CTEK CT5 START/STOP is a Must for Vehicles Equipped with Idle Start/Stop TechUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-80658440737566360032021-02-17T13:45:17.710+08:002021-02-17T13:45:17.710+08:00Awesome write-up! And interesting too! Because I&#...Awesome write-up! And interesting too! Because I'm in dilemma on whether to get MXS 5.0 or CT5 Start/Stop as I hope to use it on a Start/Stop EFB battery and also another one in my 4x4 which uses normal SLI battery. So meaning that the CT5 Start/Stop charger CAN BE USED to charge both types without problems, right?永远守护着宝贝的天使https://www.blogger.com/profile/07099163052524459364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-12099864848983473342019-03-30T17:59:40.629+08:002019-03-30T17:59:40.629+08:00Being a PECE, I agree with the comment and analysi...Being a PECE, I agree with the comment and analysis from Anonymous. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00218585353001539262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-60324937688884020422019-02-05T10:56:59.727+08:002019-02-05T10:56:59.727+08:00
@Annonymous, great comments. Very helpful and jus...<br />@Annonymous, great comments. Very helpful and just confirmed what I was thinking. However, I’m still not 100% sure which one out of the two (MXS 5.0 or CT5) has a better charging ‘current’.. Especially for AGM type Batteries.. <br />I’m in agreement with your analysis. I’ll also be looking at the MXS 5.0, for my Evoque. (SD4 2015)<br />It does everything the CT5 does + more!Little Wobblerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18215259160598541878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-79598658109371424992019-02-05T10:49:02.873+08:002019-02-05T10:49:02.873+08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Little Wobblerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18215259160598541878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-51231728826678189232018-05-17T19:03:47.101+08:002018-05-17T19:03:47.101+08:00Also want to add:
The CT5 Start/Stop is a bit mor...Also want to add:<br /><br />The CT5 Start/Stop is a bit more expensive, but has less manual options. This results in another contradiction:<br />They say: "Fully optimized for cars with Start/Stop technology, e.g. AGM and EFB batteries", but it doesn't have a dedicated AGM option (which the MXS 5.0 does) and also non-AGM batteries can be used. Because it also support other batteries and because there is no mode selection, a possibly sub-optimal voltage is used for AGM batteries: 14.55V, while the MXS 5.0 allows you to select a dedicated AGM option with higher voltage: 14.7V.<br />So the CT5 Start/Stop is possibly not "fully optimized" for AGM, while the MXS 5.0 is. So the CT5 Start/Stop possibly is just a bit more expensive, easier and less optimized charger than the MXS 5.0.<br /><br />For most people what simply want to charge an AGM battery, it probably doesn't matter much, but the way CTek provides the information is frustratingly confusing.<br />I'm probably going for the MXS 5.0, that I hope to buy today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-59080088346146995752018-05-17T18:50:53.226+08:002018-05-17T18:50:53.226+08:00The MXS 5.0 uses 14.4V under the "small"...The MXS 5.0 uses 14.4V under the "small" and "normal" program, 15.8V for "recond" and 14.7V for "AGM".<br />The manual says that both "Normal" and "AGM" mode can be used for respectively "many" and "most" AGM batteries.<br /><br />The CT5 Start/Stop uses 14.55V.<br /><br />The info provided by CTek (on the website and pdf manuals and product sheets) are somewhat confusing regaring the supported "battery capacity". The MXS 5.0 manual combined with the website suggests that a battery up to 110 Ah is supported under normal conditions, and batteries up to 160Ah are supported only for "maintenance", but not for charging.<br /><br />The info provided by CTek suggests that the CT5 Start/Stop supports up to 130Ah batteries under all conditions. But the output and input current of it is lower than MXS 5.0 (3.8A vs 5.0A). I'm not sure how capacity, current and voltage exactly relate when it comes to charging speed, but the higher current of the MXS 5.0 sounds to me like an important factor in charging speed.<br />They mention nothing in the CT5 Start/Stop manual about charging time limits, while they do in the MXS 5.0 manual.<br /><br />So I find the info provided by CTek somewhat confusing, and even contradictory. For example, they say: <br />"Is the START/STOP a simpler charger than the MXS 5.0? It has only three lights while the MXS 5.0 has eight.<br />No. On the MXS 5.0 a light shows for every step, and the voltage and power curve is shown above and below the lights. On the START/STOP we've chosen to reduce the number of lights and instead just show which phase the charger is currently in – Check, Charge or Care. START/STOP has no programme selection. Instead, when it is in contact with a battery it starts as soon as it's plugged into a wall socket."<br /><br />So they say it's not a "simpler charger", but at the same time, their motivation is that they reduced to number of lights and buttons to make it simpler.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-69278901300635706712018-05-17T17:53:19.654+08:002018-05-17T17:53:19.654+08:00Difference is that the MXS 5.0 has different modes...Difference is that the MXS 5.0 has different modes. But for the standard mode it is 14.4 versus 14.55Ulysses Anghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06863291552170192774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-10276417295167290212018-05-17T17:08:40.462+08:002018-05-17T17:08:40.462+08:00"CTEK is introducing the CT5 START/STOP. Like..."CTEK is introducing the CT5 START/STOP. Like its best-selling MXS 5.0, which has an 8-step charging process, the CTEK CT5 START/STOP delivers a charge rate of 5 amperes per hour, enough for most cars and SUVs. Unlike the MXS 5.0 though, it delivers a higher voltage of charge required by deep cycle or EFB batteries"<br /><br />That's incorrect, the output of the CT5 START/STOP is "14.55V, 3.8A max", and its capacity is "14–130Ah".<br />The output of the MXS 5.0 is "14.4V/14.7V/15.8V, 5.0A max" and its capacity is "1.2–160Ah".<br /><br />See:<br />https://www.ctek.com/products/vehicle/ct5-start-stop<br />https://www.ctek.com/products/vehicle/mxs-5-0<br /><br />So people may be drawing the exact opposite conclusion when reading your article when judging between MXS 5.0 and CT5 START/STOP. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-89484816123690527522017-04-17T20:06:38.806+08:002017-04-17T20:06:38.806+08:00about istop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k159M...about istop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k159M8QhCIE<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-6077230365586429442017-04-14T10:57:45.786+08:002017-04-14T10:57:45.786+08:00Sweet, thank you! Sweet, thank you! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-68809843685904620592017-04-13T09:34:28.732+08:002017-04-13T09:34:28.732+08:00The MXS 5.0 can also be used on cars with start st...The MXS 5.0 can also be used on cars with start stop tech. Charging and conditioning may take longer, but that's about it.Ulysses Anghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06863291552170192774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-19374194747385614732017-04-12T22:45:48.469+08:002017-04-12T22:45:48.469+08:00Hi Uly,
Is there any tangible benefit to the CT5?...Hi Uly,<br /><br />Is there any tangible benefit to the CT5? I already have a MXS 5.0 since i use it for other cars also.<br /><br />ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-84963901915352702562017-04-12T05:43:18.160+08:002017-04-12T05:43:18.160+08:00Yes, but diesel and hybrid technology is expensive...Yes, but diesel and hybrid technology is expensive.<br /><br />Idle start stop also reduces tail pipe emissions because the engine shuts off in traffic.<br /><br />The Picanto, with its 1.0 NA engine will have it as standard in Europe. Ford is also putting it in their new EcoSport and Fiesta as well. So is Subaru with their Impreza. <br /><br />The point is, start stop tech is the cheapest way to improve both economy and tailpipe emissions and we might have to brace for the fact that it will come in more models as standard equipment. Ulysses Anghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06863291552170192774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-61591666901977960052017-04-12T00:50:50.113+08:002017-04-12T00:50:50.113+08:00I thought hybrid and electric vehicles were the fu...I thought hybrid and electric vehicles were the future? Maybe they need it in europe and the americas where it can save fuel in their large engined cars but it doesn't make sense here where cars rarely go over 2.0 liters. Even with 2 liter cars, the savings are minimal to justify its costAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-11649763024718092572017-04-11T10:08:59.513+08:002017-04-11T10:08:59.513+08:00The first battery (OEM) which came with the car la...The first battery (OEM) which came with the car lasted about 10 months. It was replaced with Motolite, under warranty, and lasted about 8 months. The third one, I had to buy, which is another Motolite and lasted for about 10 months, it was replaced under warranty. The current one, is 3 months old now, I want to prevent the same thing happening all over again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-74013876719192319302017-04-11T06:10:07.488+08:002017-04-11T06:10:07.488+08:00As I mentioned in the story, idle start stop is th...As I mentioned in the story, idle start stop is the future. Europe, for example, will be mandating them and it cannot be switched off in the next few years. It will only be a matter of time before all cars will have them and you won't be able to turn them off. For now, these technologies are expensive, but products like CTEK can make it more affordable in the long run. Ulysses Anghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06863291552170192774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-90816268750313274832017-04-10T23:04:09.661+08:002017-04-10T23:04:09.661+08:00Just goes to show that whatever amount of fuel you...Just goes to show that whatever amount of fuel you save from the istop system will go down the drain since you have to buy these device just to make your battery life a bit longer than the usual (6 months). Add to that the frequent battery change evn with these device as compared to other car makes. And oh boy, be ready for expensive repairs/replacement once the istop system bogs down. <br /><br />For now, vehicles with throttle altering fuel saving systems seems to be the better choice in terms of maintenance. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11349986043756349553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-53980825923980959892017-04-10T20:06:57.391+08:002017-04-10T20:06:57.391+08:00Did you buy the local battery? It seems the local ...Did you buy the local battery? It seems the local battery don't last long at all. The Japanese battery lasts two years without any problem but the cheaper local is prone to draining. Sometimes it drains after a few months of useAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-53583016278931702402017-04-10T15:57:51.444+08:002017-04-10T15:57:51.444+08:00My battery isn't a deep cycle battery, but acc...My battery isn't a deep cycle battery, but according to Robert Briggs of CTEK, whether it's a traditional SLI battery or EFB (deep cycle) battery, as long as it's conditioned regularly, it will last longer. He has clients that have been running their battery for 14 years with no problem.Ulysses Anghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06863291552170192774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-50089033370786713752017-04-10T15:24:30.210+08:002017-04-10T15:24:30.210+08:00I'm sold! You are the perfect endorser hehehe....I'm sold! You are the perfect endorser hehehe. Sir Uly, just to clarify your statement above, your battery lasted 5 years with the aid of CTEK by charging the battery religious (every 2 weeks)? Also this 5 yr old battery is not a deep cycle battery that's on a start/stop equipped vehicle? thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-23708503209461487272017-04-10T13:03:43.808+08:002017-04-10T13:03:43.808+08:00I own a Mazda 6 Skyactiv and I've already repl...I own a Mazda 6 Skyactiv and I've already replaced the battery 3 times in the 2.5 years I've owned it. I'm on my 4th battery now, and I've always wondered if I was the only one experiencing this absurd battery drain. It seems I'm not the only one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-9654496185948519252017-04-10T12:02:24.277+08:002017-04-10T12:02:24.277+08:00It will.
It won't cost as much as a start / ...It will. <br /><br />It won't cost as much as a start / stop battery, so if you get to prolong the life by double, the investment you've made on the CTEK has been made worth it.<br /><br />My original battery lasted 5 years before I needed to replace it. And I had to replace it not because it had charging issues, but because the battery case started leaking. Ulysses Anghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06863291552170192774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-11614841418442668402017-04-10T11:01:00.735+08:002017-04-10T11:01:00.735+08:00I heard reports of Mazda 6 owners wherein their ba...I heard reports of Mazda 6 owners wherein their batteries died after 6 months of use, while Mazda 3 owners stated that their batteries lasts 18 months to 2 years. Perhaps its due to their usage? Mine is 4 months and still no problem, I use istop all the time in city driving. I'm really interested with the CTEK though, to prolong the battery's lifespan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-83819981613548718602017-04-10T10:18:01.594+08:002017-04-10T10:18:01.594+08:00The "every 6 months" is based on anecdot...The "every 6 months" is based on anecdotal experience of one particular user based in Bangkok. Still, with CTEK, the battery can last indefinitely (until it really cannot accept a charge). Ulysses Anghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06863291552170192774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7521223446245210239.post-67244783733027312442017-04-10T10:15:26.605+08:002017-04-10T10:15:26.605+08:00Every 6 months? Mazda 3 2.0 owners told me that th...Every 6 months? Mazda 3 2.0 owners told me that their battery lasts from 18 months to 2 years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com