Thursday, December 17, 2015

5 Reasons Why the Honda City is a Great First Car

Photos by Ulysses Ang
The fourth-generation City, launched in 2014, has been a runaway success for Honda Cars Philippines. It’s been well-received by public and pundits alike with its exceptional packaging combining technological and safety features wrapped in a sharply-penned body. And the fact that it brings back the unmistakable Honda DNA—the fun-to-drive yet environmentally-responsible character adds to its charm.

Given the chance to sample the base City variant, the 1.5 E, it shines as a great first family car. And while it isn’t necessarily the one you’ll buy to carve mountain roads with, it’s arguably the most practical choice. Outlined below are five great reasons why it makes for a practical family car. Of course, if you don’t agree, feel free to react by dropping a note in the Comments section below.



It’s got space for all the lives you lead

If there’s one single aspect that sets the City apart from everyone else in the sub-compact segment, it’s the interior space. Far and large, it’s the comfiest car to be in, especially if you plan to use it regularly to ferry five adults. The rear quarters deserve an honorable mention for the almost-flat floor and abundance of knee room. Though not recommended for safety reasons, there’s actually enough knee room at the back to sit with your legs crossed—a trait the City shares with its bigger brother, the Accord. Plus, unlike other sub-compacts which tend to sacrifice cubby hole space, the City does offer a decent amount of storage space for small knick-knacks and devices.  What’s more, it’s got a cavernous trunk that can swallow more than a week’s worth of groceries. If need be, it can take in two full-sized suitcases for that airport run.

Area for improvement: As much as you’d like the City’s deep and large trunk, the addition of a 60/40 split-folding rear seat would have made it perfect. Of course, if you need the extra cargo flexibility, Honda does offer the Jazz which has that magical ULTR rear bench.



It’s fuel efficient yet peppy

Fuel efficiency is once again thrown into the spotlight when it comes to a new car purchase. It’s now a very important consideration, not because of pump prices per se, but because of Manila’s horrendous traffic. And while other cookie cutter sub-compacts putter on with carryover drivetrains, Honda has answered the call and provided the City with an extremely usable package. The 1.5-liter 4-cylinder engine maybe carried over from the previous-gen model, but it’s pretty adept for everyday driving. The secret here is found in the new ECON mode which modifies several engine parameters squeezing out even more kilometers per liter. Another is the Earth Dreams CVT that provides excellent real-world fuel efficiency without getting bogged down by a rubber brand feel commonly associated with belt-driven transmissions. Having sampled the City in various trim levels, it has done between 9.2 to 10.8 km/L in the city and 19.58 to 20.8 km/L on the highway.

Area for improvement: Frankly, the City’s already impressive enough when it comes to its drivetrain, but a move to a completely new Earth Dreams engine will no doubt increase those mileage figures even more.




It’s got all the necessary tech

Who says convenience technology should only be limited to vehicles costing a million pesos and above? With the latest iteration, Honda has actually put a lot of emphasis in improving creature comfort features. In fact, vis-à-vis all other City models before it, it represents the biggest jump in terms of standard tech. Of course, a part of it is because of the increased competition in the sub-compact segment as well as the introduction of entry-level models such as the Brio and Brio Amaze. While the focus has always been on the VX and VX+ models, even the entry-level E is loaded. Aside from the usual power convenience features, the E comes with a tilt/telescopic steering column with electric power assist steering, a multi-function trip computer in the instrument cluster, a Kenwood audio system with both USB and Bluetooth, and a full-featured manual air conditioning system. A starter car can’t get any better.

Area for improvement: Whoever designed the Kenwood audio system should be fired and not for the reason you think. Operating it is relatively straight-forward although some functions require you to browse through the owner’s manual to get right. The biggest culprit is the display which is just too dim. During the day, station or track IDs are unreadable despite being in the highest available brightness setting. At night, it’s no better. And please, why can’t the gauges also be lit in white just like the rest of the cabin.



It’s mighty safe

Before, compact cars are usually the go-to vehicles for young families; today, with starting pricings going up past one million, sub-compacts are the way to go. Thankfully, carmakers have begun to understand that upwardly mobile families still consider safety as a top priority and have started to equip their entry-level vehicles with the same sort of safety equipment normally reserved for more expensive models. Take the Honda City for instance. It received high marks at the New Car Assessment Program for Southeast Asian Countries or ASEAN NCAP. The City received the highest score in the small family car category as well as overall. Standard safety features include dual SRS airbags, anti-lock brakes with brake assist, and even ISOFIX child seat anchors. Although the particular model to receive the top prize is the City equipped with Vehicle Stability Assist or VSA, the 1.5 E is no slouch receiving 4 out of 5 stars in ASEAN NCAP ratings.

Area for improvement: The more safety equipment, the better. Understandably, Honda reserves features like stability assist and the rear view camera on their higher-end models, but perhaps they can throw the entry-level model a bone and equip it at least with rear parking sensors as well.



It’s well built

Aside from being frugal at the pump, Honda Cars Philippines has made sure that the City is not just affordable, but easy to maintain. They’re the first manufacturer to double the standard Preventive Maintenance Service (PMS) cycle from 5,000 to 10,000 kilometers (or 3 to 6 months whichever comes first). Consider this: a full three years of City ownership costs around P 42,663.61 (average of P 7,110.56 per year) or projected over 60,000 kilometers, roughly P 0.71 per kilometer. Even with the cost of unleaded gasoline pegged at P 38 per liter, it adds just P 4.13 per kilometer. Without factoring depreciation, the total running cost of the City is just P 4.84 per kilometer for the first three years. Not bad, considering a more expensive PPV will set you back around close to P 12 per kilometer in terms of fuel and maintenance.

79 comments:

  1. For your areas of improvement on reason#1, the 60/40 is available in VX+ as outlined in the specs sheet:

    [60:40 Split-Type with center armrest & cupholder]

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    1. Yes, but we're specifically featuring the 1.5 E for this one. It's affordable yet packed with features. The VX and VX+ are a bit pricey for some already.

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  2. "Consider this: a full three years of City ownership costs just P 9,510.95 or projected over 60,000 kilometers"

    Nope, I already paid 4200 on my first 6 months visit.

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    1. Ouch. Care to share what happened to your City?

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    2. That's just what I paid for PMS :D

      Fully synthetic oil (as recommended)
      Oil filter, etc..
      Air filter

      The price didn't include the offered "full carwash and vacuum" because i refused to add P800

      Now it makes me wonder how much other dealer charges for the usual PMS (change oil, etc..)

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    3. Well, doing the math... 4,200 X 6 visits (twice a year over 3 years), that's still only P 25,200 or P 2.2 per day. Not so bad.

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    4. Kaya naman pala, fully synthetic oil pinalalagay mo and you already replaced the air filter. Why did you allow them to replace your air filter anyway? Decline ka kaagad. You have to be aware of your maintenance schedule or else you'll be spending unnecessary expenses. Check mo sa manual, nandoon yung PMS schedule. Di rin kailangan fully synthetic, I use ordinary mineral oil and it's fine, just change it every 6 months. PMS ko sa honda is usually less than 1.5k lang. I buy the brake pads, air and cabin filters outside the casa tapos decline ka din doon sa mga tune up and brake cleaning service nila.

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    5. Isn't it voiding the warranty if you install 3rd party parts?

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    6. Oops, I forgot about the warranty. Well you are correct, only buy parts outside the casa after the warranty has expired. Only get parts from the casa if your car is still under warranty. My honda city is already outside of the warranty so its ok, and I go to the casa only to change the fluids e.g. oil, ATF, brake fluid. As I've said, I replace other parts outside the casa, except for the oil filter.

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    7. if you're declining other items included on the pms, with just having oil change, then your pms is not 100% preventive. Sorry but I don't think that's practical/advisable.

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    8. Di mo naintindihan sinabi ko. I said check the manual for the PMS schedule. I mean who the fuck in their right mind would change the air filter in just 6 months under normal usage? I'm saying decline their offer if it is not indicated that it would have to be replaced yet based on the manual. Gets mo?

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    9. I agree... my first 6 months PMS, ang dami nilang recommendations, sabi ko sa adviser, bakit papalitan yung mga yan eh 6 months pa lang? sabi ko baguhin mo yan kasi masyadong mataas PMS ko for first 6 months.. ayun... pagbalik sakin half the price... usually nadedengoy lang sa ganyan mga walang alam sa koche, yung mga first time car owners at yung mga tanga-tanga... hehehe no offense but i agree with the guy on top

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    10. is replacement of air filter only a recommendation of the service adviser or it's actually included in honda's 6mos pms checklist?

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    11. Try niyo kasi mag research at magbasa regarding sa different parts ng koche. For example, ano ba difference ng fully synthetic and ng mineral oil, pros/cons? Kung regular usage lang naman and lagi ka nag change oil pwede na ba mineral oil? Ano ba ang Air Filter? Gano ba katagal life span niyan? Stuff like that, i mean... kung hindi ka mag effort alamin mga parts ng koche mo, talagang prone mag agree sa kung ano man ang sa sabihin ng Casa sa'yo since wala ka naman alam, and hindi mo alam alternative options. It's like asking the taxi driver to go from point A to point B and saying "bahala ka na kung saan tayo dadaan kasi hindi ko alam kung pano pumunta dun." :)

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    12. ^
      Totoo yan. Sa panahon ngayon, kailangan aware ka. Wag magpapadala sa mga sales talk. Nandyan lang manual mo sa sasakyan. If there is doubt, refer to the manual for your PMS schedule.

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  3. hi I just wanna share gaano ka tibay at safe ng City, if I can show the pics here i'll post it. One night an old lady driving at 40-50km/hr with her bnew ford ecosport bumped on my City at my front left passenger door and wheel side. her echosport's right front is Lubog na lubog and her bumper is half wrecked down, pero ang City ko parang gusot gusot lang ang metal sheet.

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  4. honda city isn't a subcompact anymore. it used to be. now it's a compact car :)

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    1. The Civic is still Honda's contender in the compact category. No question though that it is a better car over the City.

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    2. Especially the upcoming 1.5 Turbo model. I've heard that thing is pretty fast... I just hope it won't be tarnished by those damn ricer boys who likes to mod/rice the shit out of their cars.

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    3. The current Honda Civic is blase already compared to the City that's why it isn't selling well and is being swallowed by newer and more stylish models like the Mazda 3s and Altis. It rested too much on its laurels.

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    4. The current Honda Civic is blase already compared to the City that's why it isn't selling well and is being swallowed by newer and more stylish models like the Mazda 3s and Altis. It rested too much on its laurels.

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  5. The City is a true utility car, much like the Toyota Vios. It is spacious for its size, has a big trunk, frugal on gas, and with a decent level of performance. Our previous generation 2009 City 1.5L has served us well and it clocked more than 100k KM already. However, I am not a fan of the boring drive the City offers. The steering feels disconnected, the suspension does not feel planted, and Honda's L engine lacks oomph (unless you get it past the VTEC stages). If you just want an all-around small family car, the City is more than enough for your needs.

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    1. I beg to disagree. The City is anything but boring, as a matter of fact, I enjoyed going to San Fernando Pampanga last Sunday at a speed of 170km/hr (I felt i could have reached 180 had the road been cleaner) with the S mode. Yep, first time i have really utilized the S mode and it's great! When i hear boring, what comes to my mind is Vios, Mirage, Sylphy... but CITY?! F#CK NO! hahaha

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    2. I myself am driving a 1.5L City and it is far from sporty. It's more of a utilitarian car than sporty. Maybe utilitarian is not the right word, I always thought of the City as a premium and classy option in the subcompact segment. But sporty? No. The Mazda 2 or Ford Fiesta are sporty but the City is not. I'm not saying though that Honda City is a boring car though, it's not just as exciting as those two cars I mentioned.

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    3. Try the S mode papi. But I don't think the 1.5L has it. It's like the car is just begging you to hit the pedal, even the ford ranger couldn't keep up with the speed and acceleration. I was surprised myself since I never used the S mode before, I never knew that my car could be so freakin fast! (And I still made 14km/l based on the info screen)

      I can't comment on Mazda 2, i haven't driven it, with ford fiesta, i drove my friend's car for 2 weeks and it's not as refined as the City. Ford fiesta has decent power, but it's not smooth... it's rought, and the engine/car actually jerks off with minimal step on the gas (i thought it was a defect and i told my friend to have it checked out).

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    4. Yes, I agree with you in terms of speed, the City is fast (not as fast as the 1.0L ecoboost though) and comfort is good. I feel like the name "City" is inappropriate because this car is truly capable on highways. However, it's not as nimble as the Mazda 2 or Ford Fiesta but its definitely more practical than those two.

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    5. We have the previous generation City with the 1.5L engine (5AT) with paddle shifters, the previous generation Jazz with the 1.3L engine (5AT), and the Fiesta 1.0L Ecoboost. Both the City and Jazz are not as quick as the Fiesta Ecoboost, nor their handling and steering as responsive as the Fiesta. The Jazz 1.3L is even slower than the City but Jazz feels more planted than the City though both can't match the grip offered by the Fiesta. The Fiesta's DCT may be clanky in low speeds but it is very quick to shift once you get to know how to tame that DCT. Our old Accord feels more responsive than the City or Jazz.
      The City and Jazz are more spacious than the Fiesta which has cramped rear seats. It is true that the City is a good highway cruiser and very fuel efficient (I was able to do 450 km on its 30L tank in my trip to Bagiuo and back before when SCTEX was just up to Tarlac City). However, the City is not as sporty like the Civic FD or Fiesta or Mazda3. It's more like the Vios really.
      The E model is a good choice but for the price of the new VX models, you'd rather spend that money on an Altis or Civic FB or Sylphy if you're looking for comfort or the Fiesta Ecoboost if you prefer performance & handling.

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    6. Try the S-Mode in the free way... it's like the car suddenly changes its persona from being nice to being bad ass. When I drove my City in S-Mode, it reminded me of Honda SIR back in the days in terms of speed and acceleration. I don't think subcompact cars like vios, mirage, accent, will be able to match that speed and acceleration in the freeway... not even the 1.6 altis. I may be bias since I own the car, and i'm a honda lover... but when i got to 170km/hr with my city in NLEX, the engine wasn't even stressed... it's like there's still power left for me to push it to 180? 190? 200? Yep... i know... kahit ako nagulat to be honest, sanay lang ako sa D mode for City driving... Now tell me, can the vios do that? mirage? accent? altis 1.6? :D

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  6. Hi, what do you mean by rubber band feel of the cvt? I dont know if what i feel is normal for a cvt, this is my first cvt, but my previous car, opel astra, feels much smoother on traffic than my current city.

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  7. Just avoid the City with the body kits installed, it is just out of style and expensive. Stock form in metallic colour looks better, classy and clean.

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    1. Right on! The body kits seem pointless as they offer no gains in performance and they just make the car look ricey. You are better off buying a more powerful or bigger car than paying for a City with body kits worth 1M+.

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  8. does this mean honda's regular oil is good for 10k like synthetic? Based on your declared figure here, a pms is worth around 1.6k. if this is true it's indeed very cheap. is honda offering free labor for pms?

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    1. I doubt that. Honda may have regular mineral oil available but they would say that fully synthetic is required for services covering 10k KM or 6 months. Honda's synthetic oils (sourced from Idemitsu) are quite good though but they are not cheap in dealerships (around P650 per liter). We have Honda cars and casa maintenance is not cheap with Honda. Also, Honda uses specific fluids ( ATF, CVTF, PSF, etc.) for their cars which are not similar to aftermarket brands.
      I would not suggest using mineral oil for that long as getting cheap with maintenance may cause you more trouble later on. Better be safe than sorry.

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    2. Nope, regular mineral oil is fine if you're not abusing the car and you change oil regularly. Wag ka masyado magpapaniwala dyan sa marketing BS na mas ok ang fully synthetic, yes mas ok siya if di ka masyado nagpapalit ng oil and you're racing your car. Pero under normal conditions, regular oil is sufficient. I own a honda city, I use regular mineral oil and I only spend less than 1.5k for the change oil service in casa every 6 months.

      And regarding the fluids, yes it is true. Please do not use aftermarket fluids, they will ruin vital parts. Only use OEM fluids. But brake pads, air filters and cabin filters sa labas ako bumibili.

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  9. Wonder when will HCPI bring in the 1.5 I-Dtec engine? Read from indian reviews it's good for at least 28 km/l with 200 N-M of torque..Wow! will make City a Brute Ute.

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  10. So based on your comment, seems Uly's story here on cheap pms isn't realistic after all. And what seems to be more realistic is the 4200 worth pms comment above.

    I don't own a city. what i own is a vios. I just had my 20k pms and after the 5 pms's (1k, 5k, 10, 15, 20k) that I had, my total expenses on pms is 14k and that's averaging 2.8k per pms. all with regular oil except the 5k which is semi synthetic. And should I reach 30k/3yrs pms, my total expenses then would be still around 20k - lower than the comment posted above which is around 25k.

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    1. NO, that's incorrect. Gusto mo pakita ko pa sa iyo receipt ko pag nagpaservice ako ngayong january. Less than 1.5k lang magagasto ko sa honda city pag nagpachange oil. Sa honda semi synthetic nila is 2k lang last time I checked, and their fully synthetic oil is 2.8k, excluding oil filter and labor.

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    2. Uly just revealed the actual cost of each honda pms. So with your post here claiming that you just paid 1.5k for your pms which is below Uly's indicated charges here, it seems you are actually declining items in the schedule and not just declining service advisers recommendations.

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    3. I don't know the basis of Uly's price, probably that's based on the fully synthetic oil. But speaking from experience, I only paid less than 1.5k using regular mineral oil from Honda without voiding my warranty before. They offered brake cleaning and tune up services but I declined because that would jack up the price. I know the PMS schedule because I look at the manual. I know when to replace fluids and parts.

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  11. Or just get a Mazda2 and not spend anything on maintenance for the first 3 years :-)

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  12. Guys,

    For clarification, here's the PMS breakdown of the Honda City 1.5 E as provided to me by Honda Cars Philippines, Inc. (HCPI):

    6 months / 10,000 km - P 3,691.55
    1 year / 20,000 km - P 7,042.16
    1.5 years / 30,000 km - 3,691.55
    2 years / 40,000 km - P 15,035.65
    2.5 years / 50,000 km - P 3,691.55
    3 years / 60,000 km - P 9,510.95

    I had to issue a correction mainly because I thought the P 9,510.95 cost is cumulative for the entire 3-year/60,000-km lifespan. I issued a correction in the story.

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    1. Thank you. Would you be able to see the break down of 40,000 km PMS? It seems steep, did it have some sort of shocks replacement or something?

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  13. Truth shall prevail. nothing is cheap at Honda. From an oil filter to fuel filter. Mapili pa ito ng engine oil and transmission oil. too sensitive that using conventional oil can damage a honda engine.

    A car happened to bump the rear bumper of our neighbor's 2nd gen city. There's a hairline one inch scratch on the bumper. Honda charged almost 6000 for the hair line scratch. I advised him just keep the money. But he insisted. A few years later, the painted portion popped out. leaving an ugly scar

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    1. yup so pms is turns out to be really expensive with honda. well, that's part of owning a honda. but it shouldn't be a turnoff factor if you're a honda die hard fan!

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    2. To be honest, honda's parts are expensive but the fluids are quite cheap. That's why I avoid casa when replacing parts. I only go to casa during change oils, replacing ATF or brake fluid. Disclaimer, my car is out of warranty.

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  14. Sir ask ko lng sana if need ba talaga ang pms na 10k or 6 mons. for change oil kasi yung oil ng city ko maitim na and sticky but its just only 2 mons and mileage is 3400k pa lng it is very far from 20k or 6 mons.thanks for your advise

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  15. sorry 10k and 6 mons whichever comes first.

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  16. sorry 10k and 6 mons whichever comes first.

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  17. Sir ask ko lng sana if need ba talaga ang pms na 10k or 6 mons. for change oil kasi yung oil ng city ko maitim na and sticky but its just only 2 mons and mileage is 3400k pa lng it is very far from 20k or 6 mons.thanks for your advise

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  18. Mazda 2 R or Honda City Vx for a bachelor? Comparing the two:
    -Honda City has more power, but the Mazda 2 has better power to weight ratio.
    -Mazda 2 R has a lot more toys(awesome leather seats, sport mode, HUD, better infotainment system) and slightly more fuel efficient than the Honda City.
    -3 years free PMS
    -The Mazda 2 won numerous awards(Japan, Philippine Car of the year awards, and it is sold in first world countries, whereas the Honda City is only sold in 3rd world countries)
    -The Mazda 2 is more fun to drive than the Honda City(6 speed Skyactiv transmission than the CVT)
    -Both are at par in reliability, with the Mazda even surpassing Honda.
    -The Mazda feels more premium inside and out
    -The only thing the City beats the 2 is interior space, other than that the Mazda 2 is superior in all aspects.

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    1. What about the back up camera? Aftermarket cameras will never match OEM camera. The city also has sport mode with paddle shifters. For bachelors, yes the mazda2 is better. But for practicality, the honda city\jazz wins because of space and availability of parts outside casa, although still expensive.

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  19. You can purchase a good back up camera in the aftermarket(Just don't penny pinch). It only has paddle shifters, no sport mode. I agree with the Honda City being more pracical because of bigger leg room and space.
    Why would you need parts? If you trust your car manufacturer, you shouldn't be worrying of spare parts. The difference in price of spare parts are just minor, and you are buying a car, don't choose a car just because spare parts are readily available.
    The City also has rear drum brakes, and electronic injection, which I cringe about. The Mazda 2 has disc brakes and direct injection which is a lot better and more value for money. Lastly, the Mazda 2 looks way better than the Honda City.Anyway, I still like the Honda City, but I choose the Mazda 2 because I'm still a bachelor, choose the Honda City or Jazz if you value space over refinement, then again, you could get the Corolla Altis near the price of the Honda City Vx which has a huge interior.

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    1. The city has that S in the automatic. No sure if that stands for sport mode but what that does is hold the gear longer and allows you to manually shift gears using the paddle shifters. Drum brakes does not make any noticeable difference based on the video in youtube which some Malaysians tested vios with disc brakes vs city with drum brakes. Electronic injection? Do you mean that mazda2 has direct injection? I don't think the Mazda2 has direct injection yet. As far as I know, the smallest engine that Mazda has equipped with direct inection is 2.0L.

      Based on experience, aftermarket camera still has long ways to go before they can catch up with OEM quality. Maybe some have improved though, I still haven't checked recent cameras in the market.

      Honestly though, I think the Mazda2 is a more premium option than the City. I think the city is a bit of an appliance but still it offers really good value than the mazda2.

      Lastly, the Altis is heavier and the beige seats suck.

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  20. I have modulo vx na city.. sporty yes..

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  21. I have a question for Honda owners. Are parts expensive and easy to find outside of casa?...compared to Toyota which (I've always been told by mechanics and repair shop owners) has always been available and less pricey in terms of replacement parts.

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    1. Toyota parts are the easiest to find and cheapest. Honda parts are not quite as easy to find as toyota but they are still readily available outside the casa compared to other brands like mazda or subaru. Original honda parts are expensive no doubt but in my experience especially when it comes to suspension parts, they're really durable and would last a long time. As they also say in America, honda hardly ever breaks down.

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  22. Completely agree to FIRE the designer of the Kenwood sound system. I think the guy who designed the location of the horn should also be fired, It's very close to the cabin, as if it was designed for the passengers :-(.

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    1. agree sa Kenwood, looks better than the previous one but sucks during the day.

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  23. Kenwood sound system is standard to the E variant? I thought it's just something like the one you see on their website.

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  24. Nasa magkano ganito ngayun?

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  25. Ha ha ha! Halos lahat ng commenters dito, obvious galing sa taxi brand or owner type jeep, or kuliglig (term naming Cagayano) sa mga diesel.
    Bottom line, if wala ka pera, wag ka mag honda. Pede ka mag bmw or benz which is so cheap in Port Irene, then replaced it with toyota parts to hecome more reliable. Parts is really very expensive sa Honda. To be fair, bili ka ng Honda, makikita mo Thailand normally ang parts. Pag bumili kana sa casa, Panay Made in Japan. Well, that's why Honda lasts for decades, unlike all the rest, Ford halimbawa, on the second year, bulok na. Omly consolatipn with Honda, kahit mabigat, umulan bumagyo dadalhin ka saan ka man pupunta. Hindi ka ititirik nian, as long as u maintain the specified pms and honda parts. So in the end less maintainance, less breakdown, less hassle, you get you investment. Unlike, foe example, mazda, ford, 6 months palang, sira na transmission nia. Aniway, pag wala ka pera, you are destined na maglaway nalang and be contented with a diesel bulokis, a taxi brand, or those crap cheapo german brands so many in Port Irene and be like a fool pretending you own a car or suv. Lol!

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  26. Hmmm, I wonder if the City Special Edition can be ordered with built-in Navigation. Not that we're planning to because we just bought a VX last September. Just curious.

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  27. Just purchased Honda City 1.5 Special Edition Taffy White. 2 weeks palang, 11km/l using full tank method Petro Blaze100. 11km/l kasi traffic sa Ortigas Extension Daily from Antipolo to Ortigas pero tipid siya. 17km/l sa Expressway minsan 19km/l

    I can say my Honda City is boring and an appliance car only in the handling of corners portion.

    use "S" mode and boom bilis mag 6K RPM.

    I still own a Smallbody fully modded suspension with 4AGE Blacktop which can handle the curve I usually pass twice daily at 100kph with ease and can go 120kph, sa City 80kph reklamo na gulong, at 60kph medyo may body roll.

    Overall City in stock form is an appliance car since the Tire is skinny @ 175cm. I suggest to upgrade the tires to 195 at least. Then install a strutbar after 1k KM, then emotion coilover after 3years or 4 years

    The engine is not a carry over engine as what you guys think.
    The engine is the new 2013 L15Z1 engine not the L15a7 from previous generation.

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  28. Mga Sir/Ma'am, Question po, we are planning to get a car soon: here's our option and considerations:
    1. Hyundai Accent Hatch CRDI
    - tipid, since diesel
    - fuel consumption as per sales rep is 25-30kmpl
    2. Honda City E CVT
    - fuel consumption as per sales rep is 20-30kmpl
    - matibay daw kht mahal parts.
    - less maintenance.
    Hope you can help us decide.
    Thanks in advance.

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    1. Go for Honda.
      Consider its resale value.
      Try comparing Honda City 2010 to Hyundai Accent 2010. Magiging ganyan din ang value ng ssakyan mo after 5 years.

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  29. City. No fireworks. just plain/simple and reliable car. :)

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  30. Fyi lng. As of now kaka-inquire ko lng. P6,900.00 and preventive maintenance ng Honda City 1.5 VX. First 6mos or 10,000km whichever comes first.

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  31. if i remember correctly, i paid around 6 or 7k din for my 1st 6mos (January 2016). Initially i was quoted 9k kc may nilagay ung Service Advisor ko na 3in1 na BlueChem Technology daw. Not sure what it is but he said its highly recommended since humid tau. the way he explained it is like sa umaga daw yung hamog sa bakal malamig then pag uminit nagtturn cya sa water. so para di daw pasukan ng water ung gas tank kaya recommended ang bluechem tech. pinatanggal ko yun una kasi di cya confident nung inexplain nya sakin yun. 2nd kc bago palang ung car. i dont think kelangan na kelangan yun considering di masyadong gamit yung sasakyan. i will go to Honda tomorrow for my 1st year. I will update everyone magkano yung total ko. Sabi nila prepare daw 10 to 12k max. We'll see.

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  32. correction to my post yesterday.
    6th month PMS i paid 6k.
    I had my 1st year PMS earlier 10200 (initially quoted at 13+K)
    Then pinatanggal ko ulit yung BlueChem na 3K din kaya nagin 10200 nalang. Diko naisip na need ko na pala ulit magpa Rust proof. sabi ko sa service advisor ko sa Ziebart nalang ako magpapagawa. Sabi nila sa kanila daw its 2700 nalang since naka under 5 years warranty daw ako with Savi. So pinagawa ko na din yung full rustproofing kanina. Total cost 10200 + 2700.

    10200 - Fully synthetic oil na yan. tas mga aircon filters na mahal pala..

    I asked kanina magkano dapat prepare ko for 1.5 years PMS around 8k daw. 2nd year yung pinakamalaki. sabi prep daw ng 22 to 24K.

    Hope this helps. thanks:)

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  33. Hyundai Accent Maintenance for 40thou km, ang estimate ng Hyundai Pasig is 35,000 pesos!!! Is this justified? Mas maganda bang di na ako magpa maintenance sa casa pero mawawala warranty ng car? 3 years pa lang siya, 5 years warranty ng hyundai.

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    1. ang mahal 35K. Cguro ask them nalang kung ano ano ba yung 35k na yan and kung ano yung warranty nila.. Sa honda sabi nila ung warranty coverage nila ay yung mga something na nasira sa oto na di naman tau ung cause ng sira. like lets say sa wirings ng power window, if nasira within 5yrs, di mo sila babayadan kc under warranty.

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    2. Actually wala namang papalitan. Regular na maintenance lang naman. Kinausap ko service advisor today sa casa estimate naman niya 27,000 pinatanggal ko wheel alignment kasi tapos ko na siya last time sa PMS and pina skip ko muna aircon cleaning. Bumaba siya ng 18,000 less discount pa daw so mga 16K ang final estimate. Pinasend ko na lang muna details para mareview ko. Mahal pa din ba ang 16,000 for PMS?

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  34. Actually wala namang papalitan. Regular na maintenance lang naman. Kinausap ko service advisor today sa casa estimate naman niya 27,000 pinatanggal ko wheel alignment kasi tapos ko na siya last time sa PMS and pina skip ko muna aircon cleaning. Bumaba siya ng 18,000 less discount pa daw so mga 16K ang final estimate. Pinasend ko na lang muna details para mareview ko. Mahal pa din ba ang 16,000 for PMS?

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    1. okay lang cguro sir skip ung aircon. pero wheel alignment, ask them if kelangan talaga, tsaka mararamdaman mo naman yun pag nagddrive ka if malakas ung kabig. If need tlaga ng oto mo, ipagawa mo na kesa maging sakit pa ng ulo pag nag tagal. magastos talaga magka oto. so i cant say yes or no if okay na ba yung 16K PMS. :)

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  35. Sir Uly,
    Planning on buying a new car,I'm torn between honda city vx and mazda 2 R sedan. Which do you think is the better car? Thank you

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    1. consider mo din po ung resale value nya lets say after 10 years when making your decision sir. Thanks!

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    2. From what I read mataas daw resale ng honda, tama ba? Thanks

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    3. yes sir. kahit kau po mismo mag check sa mga online sites like OLX. try to check honda city 2010 then search ka din ng Mazda3 2010, makita mo po na mas malaki resale value ni honda kesa sa mazda. maganda po ung porma ni mazda, maganda din naman si honda. pero sabi nga nila looks fade. mas maganda ung nasa loob ng kaha. :) More power!

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