Friday, March 4, 2016

First Drive: 2016 Toyota Fortuner 2.4 V and 2.4 G 4x2


There are people who’re blindly loyal to the Toyota Fortuner and there are those who’ll end up buying one anyway. Such is the power of Toyota’s Pickup-based Passenger Vehicle or PPV since its market introduction in 2005. It has revolutionized the industry, offering an American-style 7-seater mid-sized SUV for the price of a compact crossover. And though some of its competitors offered a good fight, the Fortuner remained the top choice whether or not it was considered matagtag (stiff riding) or not. Now that a second generation model is upon is, is the 2016 Fortuner all that you wanted? More importantly, is it still matagtag?

Getting straight to the point and answering the second question first, yes, it’s still matagtag, but not on the same messy level as the first-generation model. There’s only so much you can do with the same suspension set-up (Double Wishbones at the front, 4-Link with Coil Springs at the back), but thankfully, the low speed discomfort has been largely quelled. It still has a propensity to hop up and down on small, undulating bumps, but at least the passengers themselves don’t bob up and down in unison. Undoubtedly, more damping and cabin insulation helped here.



While the low speed ride seems to have remained the same, the mid- and high-speed ride does see a substantial improvement. The stiffer structure not only contributes to better stability, but it also manages to keep the cabin largely level even during cornering. This minimizes the boat-like sensation keeping the passengers comfortable even on long drives. Toyota has reiterated that the Fortuner’s frame rails are as thick as the Land Cruiser Prado’s and it’s pretty evident when riding over the rough stuff. With a drive route that’s 50 percent on-road and 50-percent off-road, it glides over almost any obstacle. Even an abrupt road cut won’t unsettle it.

From behind the wheel, it feels surprisingly the same as the outgoing model, especially at low speeds. It still feels slow though corners because of the hydraulic power steering, though it’s quieter and smoother now. With sharp cuts filtered through the cabin much better, you do get the sensation of a better drive. On higher speeds, the chassis and suspension reveal a much more confidence experience. It’s still not sporty, but it’s now more adept at handling corners with controlled body roll and surprisingly, better modulation from the brakes.



After answering the question about the Fortuner’s ride, let’s now tackle the first question: is it all you wanted? The answer isn’t as straightforward as you think, but it’s one hell of an improvement from before.

With two variants priced at P 1,476,000 and P 1,736,000, the 4x2 will likely make the bulk of Fortuner sales (the 4x4 V is probably prohibitive for most). For that, you get the services of the 2GD-FTV engine. With a displacement of 2.4-liters, it has 147 horsepower and 400 Nm of torque—figures which are pretty close to the outgoing 2.5-liter. Though paper specs don’t sound encouraging, there’s considerable pep from the get-go. It’s also remarkably quiet at low revs, quieter than most German diesels. However, as the revs climb, so does the diesel clatter. Thankfully, the 6-speed is well-mated to the engine, keeping the revs down and comfort levels up.



The improved refinement is pretty much synonymous with the rest of the car. Even when driving the 4x2 G (the exterior photos are the 4x4 V), the cabin is a nicer place to be in with consistent fit and finish throughout. The two-tone hue—black and dark beige—is tastefully done, though the “zebra pattern” on the partial fabric seats takes some getting used to. The best touch though is the patches of leather dotting the cabin from the dashboard to the knee bolsters. This gives the Fortuner a notch-above look and feel. This impression extends to the nicely textured and soft (slightly) plastics and the matte wood trim.

The driving position is still somewhat truck-like though the tilt/telescopic steering wheel does ensure a better reach. The instrument cluster is familiar to those who’ve seen the latest Toyotas of late, though in the Fortuner, there are two blue vertical stripes that separate the large tach and speedo. The front seats are much improved with better support, especially in the bolsters and cushion. Meanwhile, the second row still folds and tumbles in a 60/40 split. The one-touch tumble mechanism allows easier access to the third row seating. Like the previous model, it still folds to the side, but the spring loaded mechanism and rear mounted latch point makes it easier to store.



Stepping out, the verdict on the styling remains split. Some people prefer the angular look of the old model to the swoopy look of the new one. Still, there’s some crossover-vibe going on here and for that, it looks much more modern than ever before. It’s also a head-turner thanks to the trademark “floating” roofline and slimmed down lighting elements front and back.

By all accounts, the 2016 Toyota Fortuner isn’t as perfect as you think, but a longer drive is necessary to find out whether or not you’ll warm up to what’s looking to be its weaknesses. That said, there’s no denying the improvements it has made on all fronts. Regardless of what you think, it will remain the top choices of the every man out there. Though the Innova remains the more practical choice for those with families, some have actually come to embrace the all-conquering motto of the Fortuner. “The World is Mine” aptly applies not only for Toyota, but for better or worse, Fortuner owners as well.


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  1. The World Is Mine!

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  2. The WORD IS GOD. ( JOHN chapter 1 verse 1

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  4. The new MONTERO seem more comportable and more powerful

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    1. Maybe they designed the Montero even more menacing to run into walls, cars or even humans. Not to mention maybe animals and plants too.lol

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    2. new montero has aluminum cylinder block.... prone to overheating when kms reaches 130k to 150k

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  5. Bakit ba paborito ng mga networkers ang fortuner at montero?

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  6. They like the Fortuner and Montero because they say its value for money (maybe as far as re-sale value is concerned?)

    "It has revolutionized the industry, offering an American-style 7-seater mid-sized SUV" -----> is this short of saying Japanese brands are copycat, while improving what they copied?

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    1. Not exactly. But they understood that there's a market for pickup based SUVs here in Asia. It's actually down to government regulations that made them cost-effective to produce and affordable enough for consumers.

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    2. A poorman's SUV. But these truck-based SUVs have improved compared to a decade ago, and that is why their prices have increased.
      What do you felt about the performance of having rear drum brakes? Is it better to have rear drums on 4x4s?

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    3. Drum brakes are more reliable than disc brake specially if you are carrying more than 7 people on board while you're in slop terrains.

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    4. Ayan na naman si mr. pro-drum brakes. Kahit anong gawin mo, di mo kami kaya ma convince na mas maganda ang drum brakes. Stop justifying this crap, you're just making yourself look pathetic.

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    5. in a way, drum brakes actually have an advantage in stopping a car of this weight and size. the problem is actually maintenance VS disc brakes. also disc brakes are actually made for performance cars driven around a track. With PPVs they don't actually serve their full purpose but just make maintenance easy.

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    6. Kapag sa passenger vehicles tulad ng mga ito, hindi gaanong malaki ang difference ng drum brake sa disc brake if nothing at all, kasi meron po tayo yung sinasabing "brake bias", na kung saan, everytime na nagprepreno, mas naka focus ang stopping power sa disc brakes sa front wheels mas konti lagi sa rear, kaya kahit naka disc brake ka man sa rear wheel kung ang brake bias naman ay nasa front, its as good as useless (pero di naman totally useless).

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    7. Drum brakes- tbe breaks that do not break lol. Drum brakes have been around since World War Two, they should have changed into disc brakes now. A 1.3-2.1m php SUV using drum brakes lol. Even a puny Mazda 2 base variant have 4 disc brakes, why can't Toyota do the same?

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    8. Sir! Drum Brakes are still the powerful brakes around. Disk, they are just for Luxury cars or even small cars but you know what, even if you have rear disk brakes, there is always a drum brake for your hand brake. By the way, to prove drum brakes are worth far strongest, take a look at dump trucks, buses or any heavy machinery, they use drum brakes. Don't take drum brakes too lightly cauze if disk brakes are installed into drump trucks, maybe they "break" instead to "brake"

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  7. Simply put, its a 3rd world product created for 3rd world countries.

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    1. we have them in saudi and they serve theyre purpose fine. have them in all variations. and we have all kinds of cars in saudi. cars from the US and European cars as well. we always have the best. and guess what? we have those too. they look better than that shit toyota sequoia that people get in the US lol. it's a great car. by the way. Australia has them too and last time I checked they were part of the EU. you better drive one before talking shit. i'd take them over almost any new car that'd come out today. it still uses hydraulic power steering and they are just a whole lot better than electric power steering.

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    2. Simply put: You have a fourth world mind. Teach your brain to have proper manners.

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  8. sir uly, if you find the new fort still matagtag, does this mean the new innova's suspension/ride comfort is way better?

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    1. Nakakainis ah. Conyo. Haha.

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    2. In a word, yes. The Innova feels much plusher. But again, the Innova can't tow a heavy load. The Fortuner can.

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    3. sir uly, are you saying that the 360nm torque of the 2.8 innova is far weaker than the 400nm torque of the 2.4 fort?

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    4. I think Toyota means the chassis of the Fortuner is probably more tuned for carrying/towing heavy loads.

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    5. So..... Low-end Fortuner, or high-end Innova?

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    6. ^Depends on your needs. If you would only carry passengers around the city, get the top variant innova, if you're going to carry a sinificant amount of luggage, get the base variant Fortuner, or just get a pickup.

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    7. I loathe people who buy a 7 seater SUV but only one person is inside all the time. He should have bought a compact SUV or a supermini like the Mazda 2 Speed.

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    8. 7 seats always have the advantage than your supermini ,its there when u need it ,for people or extra stuff

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  9. With that price, it still use a non-automatic aircon controls similar to entry level cars. LOL!

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    1. I totally agree... its like totally taken out from some old corolla hahaha

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  10. With that price, it still use a non-automatic aircon controls similar to entry level cars. LOL!

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  11. Both the montero and this car looks like a concept car from 2006. It looks desperate, as desperate as their creators. Yes they may look cool for now but I can't imagine how will owners of this car or some other people who own other brands see this car after 2 or 3 years of eye strain. (LOL) I know looks isn't everything but this is too much. I'm sure after a few years we'll all realize how much this car looks like an abomination.

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  12. I'd still go for LS-A 2.5 Isuzu MU-X given the price, ride comfort and features. I would say its the most practical SUV for now.

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    1. But you will sacrifice the style. The MUX is ugly compared to the big 3.

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    2. looks is not important what is important is comfort and practicality, like european vehicles that don't look so good but they deliver the purpose of which it was designed for...

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    3. puros proma ka nga hirap ka naman sa loob dahil matagtag, masikip o mahina ang aircon, porma pa more...

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    4. Yung mga taong walang pakialam sa looks ng sasakyan, yun din yung mga bumili ng crosswind at adventure. Ang tawag doon sa kanila ay "BADUY". Please magkaroon naman kayo ng respeto sa sarili niyo. You deserve better, don't settle for less. Maghanap naman kayo ng decent na sasakyan.

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    5. To the guy who said this car has 'comfort and ergonomics' and compared it to european cars. You must be kidding right? (LoL) Can you name me a european car that doesn't look good.

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    6. That car is rather conservative sir. Yes, Peugeot 301 may be unattractive but at least it doesn't look desperate.

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    7. baduy na kung baduy sa iyon lang kaya ng bulsa.and i'm a practical man,mura na brand new pa adventure is very goo car,d naman ako makiki pag mayabang tulad mo nanlalait ng tao,moron,idiot..i always plan y trip kaya dko kailangan mag apura.dati kotse at mabilis na honda service ko lol.

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    8. MU-X ugly?! Wth. I guess looks are really THAT subjective eh? I find the MU-X up there with the new Montero when it comes to styling.

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    9. That's hilarious, up there with the new montero... Right.

      Well if you really like ugly cars such as the mux, I won't judge you. That's your opinion.

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    10. mga pulube kasi kayo eh png 3rd wold suv lang kaya nyong bilhin hahahaha......panis kayo sa mercedes gls ko mga ugok

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  13. I will go to trailblazer ltx 2016 limited edition.

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    1. Go ahead , its your money anyway

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  14. Difference between g and v variant 4x2?

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    1. http://www.carguide.ph/2016/02/2016-toyota-fortuner-complete.html

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  15. 2016 and still drum brake:/ 4wheel disc brake should be standard (front grill remind me of Toureg by VW)

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  16. Can u compare the power and tagtag of the fort 2.4 v vs the everest 2.2 titanium ?

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  17. 2.4 G looks spot-on. I wish it had black or dark brown interiors and factory-installed reverse sensors. I actually prefer the manual AC, easier to adjust and no expensive repairs necessary.

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  18. wala akong macomment, turuan ko na lang kayo gumawa ng yelo. kumuha ng tubig, ilagay sa baso, ilagay sa ref, maghintay ng 2-3 oras.

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  19. huwag naman po kayo mayabang!! ako adventure lang kaya ng bulsa,besides very cheap ang maintenance no computer box, compared to other AUV it is practical car iwas aksidente kasi mabagal.basta importante makarating ka parooonan mo.i plan my trips so di kailangan ng more than 100kph.

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    1. Alam mo ba madami ka ng mabibiling mas magaganda at modernong sasakyan kaysa sa adventure sa ganoong presyo? Yan lagi ang dahilan ng mga bumili ng adventure at crosswind, "practical" daw. Pag ikaw naaksidente, goodluck na lang sa iyo at pamilya mo dahil walang airbags at ABS ang adventure mo.

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    2. Adventure, practical? Ang kitid nga ng interiors, kasing kitid ng mga utak ng mga taong sobrang bilib sa Adventure. Maluwag pa ang Vios. Talagang Third World pa tayo. Sobrang bilib ang mga tao dito sa Mitsubishi. Laos na yan sa ibang bansa. Yung Mirage nga named worst subcompact by Consumer Reports.

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    3. ^^^YABANG naman nitong GAGONG toh kala mo mayaman! Alam mo ba kung saan galling ang Mitsubishi? Sa isa sa 1st world country. At Mabasa basa ka muna ng ibang reviewers at ibang bansa. Maraming naka Mirage sa buong mundo. TANGA MO magcomment.

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    4. Dati Crosswind XUV 2004 ako bago ko bumili ng 2016 Monty pero sulit sya, wala sya naging sira, un aircon after 11 years saka lang nawala un lamig. Medyo mausok lang talaga un Isuzu at mainggay ang makina. Pero sulit mataas ko pa nabenta 430k. Nanghihinayang ako bat ko binenta kaso Nakatakot kasi baka mag phase out ng lumang sasakyang un bagong administration.

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  20. Sir uly is it true the innova comes with a 2.ltr engine while the fortuner is coming up with 2.4lltr...toyota ph are damn,morons,idiot.can you imagine they call it big brother under the hood is only 2.4ltr.the bunso innova can easily outrun his big brother..morons talaga

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    1. Actually, the Innova 2.8 is tuned to be less powerful than the 2.4. The 2.4 is meant to carry loads and have great gas mileage, while the Innova is for carrying people swiftly.

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  21. ^Prepare your eyes... it will surely get tired of looking at these cars all over PH roads... and then the design will look ordinary in a wee bit of time... and then future buyers would crave for a design update soon... refer to vios... a minor update coming soon...

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  22. For the SUV, this one's a winner. The 4x2 G auto will sell like hotcake. The 3L muX may sound cheap but it has its achilles heel.
    Old euro 2 engine and like it's engine the design is getting
    old. Isuzu should quickly upgrade it to euro 4 and do some design
    refresh, it's time anyway.

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    1. Akala ko ba bawal na ang euro 2, bakit ang Isuzu nagbebenta pa din ng walang kwentang crosswind?

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  23. Uly, which one is better in your opinion - Fort 4x2V or MS GLS Premium? im after the overall package and not just hitech features or resale value.

    tia...

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    1. You want interior space? Fortuner. You want drivability? Montero Sport. You want fun to drive? Montero Sport. You want a more premium feel? Fortuner.

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    2. You want SUA ? Montero sport

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    3. overpriced please compare???? Toyota Fortuner 2.8 V A/T - PhP 2,141,000. compare to 4x4 LSA Mux 3.0 Price Php; 1,718,000.00m; and 3.2L Titanium 4x4 AT Php 1,899,000 and All-new Montero Sport GT 2.4D 4WD AT Php 1,998,000.

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    4. The best choice MS gt , price , toys , fc

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  24. If I were to choose Fortuner 2016 or Innova 2016, I would go for the new Innova! It is definitely new! Inside and outside. I bought the SUV of the year 2015 Ford Everest . But if Innova comes out earlier than Everest, it would be a 6 months of thinking and reviews. But I think I would rather go for Innova new innovations and much more cheaper than Everest. But having an everest its like having a Poor mans Luxury SUV. Although there is no doubt in my mind Ive chosen the Right Medium SUV (Everest)

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    1. Everest is a very nice choice... sa specs talo talaga ang fortuner sir uly.. ganda rin ng ride ng Everest... pero as a buyer sir.. I always consider the resale value and maintenance of the unit as primary concerns.. that's why i decided on the Fortuner..

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  25. i really want the fortuner 2.4 (mt) but i get the navara vl 4x4 mt because its more practical and i can use it for my business also i get more car for my money. i still drool for the new furtuner though....

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  26. Hi sirs, I am a newbie to this site. If I were to buy my first car, which do you guys recommend, Innova G Diesel M/T 2016 or Fortuner Diesel 4x2 M/T 2016?

    Thanks.

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    1. Live a little, man! Get a sexy looking car that's fun to drive and stop being a diesel dork.

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  27. Hi sirs, I am a newbie to this site. If I were to buy my first car, which do you guys recommend, Innova G Diesel M/T 2016 or Fortuner G Diesel 4x2 M/T 2016?
    Thanks.

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    1. To be frank, if you don't mind driving an MPV, the Innova is a much better, much more practical car than the Fortuner. Believe me. The Fortuner is better for those who want something with a bit more style and those who don't want to be caught dead driving a "mommy car".

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    2. More practical in terms of price and fc ?

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    3. Practical in terms of price tag and fc ?

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  28. Anyone here who will answer or reply or give an advice that makes sense?

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    1. What kind of advice would you need?

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    2. You already answered it Uly. Many thanks.

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  29. Hi Mr Uly ,are u going to have a review to the top variant as well ? Is it worth to cough the extra hundred thousand compare to 4x2 v
    I believe there s a lot more additional safety tech on the 4x4v

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  30. is the interior quality at par or tad better then then Ford Everest Trend/Titanium?

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  31. can i ask if there is a power push start/stop button in Toyota All-New Fortuner 2.4 G Diesel 4x2 MT? tnx.

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    1. No rear camera, No rear sensor, no Cruise control, no DVD, No daytime running lights, No smart entry,Only 17 inch Mags

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  32. Sa autoindustriya pala me review ang 4x4 v at 4x2 v at g , bakit kaya wala ke mr uly ,
    At mas maganda review ng montero sport gt , comparo sa fortuner

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    1. Hintay hintay lang muna. Don't worry, when our review comes out, promise, you'll like ours.

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    2. Wow excited nako koya uly , baka jan n sa review mo ma address ang hottest drum rear brake issue, at sigurado makatulong yan sa desisyun to fortuner or not to fortuner , 2015 fort uses rear drum brake
      Also , is it possible to change the drum to disc for an upgrade
      If that complicates , how about the sportivo version in thai specs possibility to land in our soil
      Thnks

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  33. manual aircon controls for both V and G? V should have the push-button aircon

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    1. G has manual controls. V has push button. For the sake of this first drive though, we took interior shots of the G

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  34. sir uly, based on autoindustriya's review on the 2.4V, mr. inigo was saying that despite the increase in torque, the new fort will still struggle in long highway stretch. would you also say so?

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  35. The comments on this forum are downright hilarious!!! I love reading about the disc vs. drum brake debate and classic "3rd World SUV/AUV lovers vs. haters" debate here.

    Sometimes I wonder how many of you seriously believe what you're saying at kung sino yung nagpapatawa lang! :)) In any case keep on commenting!

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    1. I agree. I must have missed something but going by some of the posts, Australia is now a 3rd world country. :)

      Just to add to the discussion, via caradvice.com.au:
      http://www.caradvice.com.au/431436/family-4x4-suv-comparison-ford-everest-v-isuzu-mu-x-v-mitsubishi-pajero-sport-v-toyota-fortuner-v-nissan-patrol/

      Units' specs may be a bit off compared to what we have here, but guess what the verdict is. :)

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  36. Sir Uly ano po mas mgnda bilhin? yng 2016 3.0 LS-A A/T MU-X? or 2.4G A/T na fortuner

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  37. May nakakapansin din ba Na parang ansikip o ang limited Ng view Sa driverside Dahil ba tumaas ang hood o umurong Yung windshield... mas maaliwalas Yung view Ng previous model...

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  39. what would you prefer, everest or fortuner 2016?

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  40. Drum brake sa isang SUV na almost 2m? Masyadong mababa tingin nila sa mga Filipino. Yung MU x 2 airbags. Mas mura nga pag nabangga ka sa side o sa harap pag tama ng ulo mo sa sasakyan pwede ka mamatay dahil wala side curtain airbags.

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  41. Mga kababayan tingnan nyo din ang safety nyo at safety ng iyong mahal sa buhay. Kailangan ang sasakyan may ABS, VSC, at least 6 airbags, nakapasa sa gov't or private safety rating agency. By the way hindi papasa ang sasakyan pag 2 lang airbags. Be advised, yung isang sasakyan sa ibang bansa 6 ang airbags, pag dating dito 2 na lang.

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  42. At yung strength ng roof pillars kailangan at least 2x dun sa weight ng sasakyan para kahit tumaob ito (prone ang SUV dito) safe ang occupants.

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  43. Regarding sa drum brakes, safety issue yan dahil mas efficient ang disc brake kaysa drum brake. Pag bibili ka nga sasakyandi ba ang isa sa pinakaimportante ay safety mo at ng iyong pamilya? Kaya human bumili ng sasakyan na 2 lang ang airbags. Head trauma ang pinakamadaming dahilan kung bakit namamatay ang tao sa isang vehicular accident. Protect yourself and your loved ones.

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    1. sir.. i have a 2015 MuX and a 2016 fortuner 2.4 V... when you talk about brakes sobrang ganda ng brakes ng fortuner compared to the MuX. . believe me!!

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  44. sir uly did u try the sound system of the fortuner?how does it sound?

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  45. may i ask how the sound system for the fortuner is?

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    1. Nominal. Nothing great. It sounds like the outgoing model.

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    2. in my opinion, the sound system on my wife's mirage sounds better lol.
      the only thing going for my fort's sound system is that it establishes bluetooth syncs faster.

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  46. Monterosport pa rin.

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  48. 2.4Fortuner G manual dsl or 2.8 innova G manual dsl? Please help me to decide

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    1. We can't really give advice unless you describe what you're going to use the vehicles for and what you're looking for in a car.
      If you're looking for a very efficient family carrier, (and don't mind driving around in a car that's fit for moms) then get the Innova. If you need something more robust, get the Fort.
      And get the A/Ts if you're in Metro Manila.

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  49. 2.5 Fortuner G Manuel or MU-X LS-A Manuel dsl? Please help me to decide

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  50. isuzu sa mura practical
    toyota sa mahal pero maporma
    isuzu sa lamang sa safety and specs
    toyota sa base model lang
    isuzu sa old engine
    toyota sa new engine
    pag bumili ka ng toyota ang basis mo lang po ng pag bili ay
    1. maporma
    2. new engine (euro 4 compliant)
    in the end, wala po makka sagot sa tanong ninyo kundi kung ano po ba talaga ang mas gusto ninyo

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  51. Sir Uly, Iam looking for our first SUV. I really like the looks of the 2016 fortuner. Iba-iba talaga taste ng tao eh. But i am also considering everest.
    My options:
    Fortuner 2.4G Diesel AT and
    Everest Trend.

    Of course I already did a lot of specs, features and technology comparisons already. My question is, which of the two has a possible higher resale value like 5 years from now or so?

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  52. Sir Uly, first time ko po dito, sir i do really need help plan ko po bibili ng SUV by Sept 16', hindi ko ma decide fortuner 4X2 V or ford 4X2 titanium, taga cagayan po ako at madalas ang byahe ko with family, take into consider din po yun servicing and parts availabilty, reliability for long term used say morethan 5 years, and resale value? salamat sir Uly. GBu

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  53. Hi sir Uly,

    I've test driven both Innova 2016 G and Fortuner 2016 G variant. But until now I still cant decide which one should I take. Should I go for Innova V instead of Fortuner G considering that Innova V is loaded with more safety & driver assist features or should I go for Fortuner G for better look and higher ground clearance. Your advise is well-appreciated.

    By the way, here're some points of consideration.
    *Engine - Innova 2.8 V AT or Fortuner 2.4 G AT?
    *Ride handling and comfort
    -Vehicle usage:
    *90% - daily ride for kids hatid-sundo - my wife will be driving (city drive pero a lot of potholes)
    *5% - grocery thing evry 2 weeks
    5% - Yearly out town trip 7-8 pax(malubak, mountaneous roads and provincial highways)

    Maraming salamat po sir Uly...sana maliwagan na...

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