Just trust china car brands that never issued recalls.

Who you will trust then a car brands that never issued recalls?

You cant trust toyota and lexus anymore. They are recalls plagued, underspeced overpriced cars.

LOL 10M car buyers trust toyota and lexus every year. Just admit that you just cant afford a lexus. Stick with your trying hard copycat low quality china cars.

Be careful of what you say, you might seen driving one. but it’s ok to be balimbing now and then hehehe.

If ever i will go for geely/lnyk n co/zeekr, has the best engineering quality among comrades, more european than chinese.

Future head aches, china cars maybe high tech but quality still LOW. Toyota's way to maintained quality is to add a little tech, add a little tech, add a little tech. You see toyota's latest offerings are more modern looking and tech at par with china cars.

They know why they're cheaper. It's because of lower cost of labor, heavy vertical integration, and pure economies of scale. Things that Japan can't magically (or affordably) copy.

And to the guy above saying quality is still low, remember that foreign companies manufacture all their best quality stuff in China too so those processes that create real quality products are all present in the country.

It's not some cute attempt at playing copycat when you literally have engineers and skilled workers who are extensively trained to produce quality stuff. All you have to do is pirate them from the foreign company and give them the same tools (available locally) to make undeniably quality products.

If, after all that, you still think they would cheap out and build inferior products anyway then you simply fail to understand why they would even bother going through all of that in the first place if not to make ACTUAL quality products.

Does China still make bad quality stuff? Of course. But if you think that kind of quality is capable of selling millions of units within China (what more abroad) then you probably don't see the Chinese as people just like us who also don't want to get screwed when buying stuff (yes, it is - unfortunately - in their culture to take advantage of you if they can but that does not work in the highest levels of business where reputation has real weight).

I don't think using architecture to try and illustrate your point works.

Because, think of it this way, let's say the old buildings have class, sure, and the newer buildings are gaudy, okay, but since we were originally talking about cars then we should be thinking about how their engineering and utility compares over just looks.

Modern skyscrapers have maybe a lifetime of, say, less than 100 years(?) and those classy old buildings have been around for more than that and still have many more years left (with good maintenance). So it sounds like the oldies are better right? It even sounds close to how cars are looked at right now.

But now compare the economic benefit/potential/productivity of the skyscraper during its lifetime vs the classy preserved building (even if it's also used for offices and stuff). The skyscraper will absolutely dwarf the oldie when looked at that way so in terms of net benefit, the skyscraper wins.

It's an interesting thought exercise but the way I look at it is; it is still in favor of the new stuff no matter how soulless you may perceive it to be. Aesthetics and history have their value but we're talking about what are essentially tools so to solely focus on those is to disregard the underlying engineering of it all.